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Cheltenham
03-19-2010, 02:51 AM
Post: #1
Cheltenham
Hi.

First thanks for the free advice it's awesome your doing this and I hope you don't see this as me just nagging. I am grateful.

Cheltenham: have you considered leaving Cheltingham alone? 1 in 16 (or is it 15) that is a lousy record around 6% hit rate. You have 38-39% else where.

Any thoughts
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03-20-2010, 04:20 AM
Post: #2
RE: Cheltenham
Hiya Lidsville,

We did indeed consider excluding Chelters this week but the remaining meetings left few selections. Big mistake on our part and we hold our hands up high! Leaving the great meeting alone would most certainly seen us profit this week.

There's a long way to go and im sure we'll claw back the profits soon enough Smile
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03-21-2010, 03:36 AM
Post: #3
RE: Cheltenham
I would love to see you picking system. This week has been a desperate attempt to get some money. I think you have about 1 win in 30 or so picks. Todays picks was actually awful. Many off todays picks I had as potential lays. I understand that you don't want to give away your picking system but:

2,15 Newcastle Checklow
2,25 Lingfield The Scorching Wind
3,00 Lingfield Greyfriarschorista
4,45 Lingfield Jaconet
5,20 Lingfield Deauville Post

Are all lay horses.

Please comment on why you picked these horses? There no stats that says that these are strong bets, on the contrary. I have not checked the other horses to much but please comment why you picked them to.
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03-22-2010, 04:49 AM
Post: #4
RE: Cheltenham
Lidsville,

We are not going to reveal our system, why on earth would we want to do that?

The service is free at the moment and it will remain free for many months so that people can get a feel for the system over a long period of time. A system or service cannot be judged on 1 week alone and it seems that this is what you are now doing.

We are the first to admit that using the selections at Cheltenham was a bad decision to take but please do not slate the whole service for this one mistake.

You are free to cancel your subscription at anytime if you are not happy with our service.
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03-22-2010, 09:05 PM (This post was last modified: 03-22-2010 09:07 PM by Lidsville.)
Post: #5
RE: Cheltenham
As I said under my first post. "...i am grateful..." I think what your doing is a great idea to attract new costumers. But you have to understand that I, and others, use your picks to bet on. if you divert for a second from your system it affetcts me, big time!

And, I don't understand why people in this business are so sensetive to critique. I am question you methods and trying to open up a dialog. And as I stated I understand that you don't want to give away your system, it's your money maker. But what I would like to do is talk about your choises and why you acted upon them.


My concerns are based on the math, you have a 39% or so win rate. That is the primary thing I am looking for. Nine losses in a row should happen about once every three months (give or take a couple of days) 15 losses in row happens about once every five years. in the last two-three months you have had atleast 3 nine losses in a row and one 15 or so in a row loss. This indicates, in general terms, that:

1: You don't have a 39% hit rate, or
2: From time to time you divert from your system.

My interpritation is that last week was not based on your system but instead you making choices based on hunches, intuition, feelings, wanting, etc. You might be a good punter but please don't gamble with my money, ok?

I use your service different from you and I am depending on the 39% and last week cost me more than 20 percent off my bank. So if I may, could you when you divert from your system tell us users that you are doing someting different or maybe use a second system/service.

For me this is a thing about trust and it wont matter if it's free or not.

If I can't trust your stats and picks it aint much left.

On your website you say you have a 1,67 points profit a day and that I can 7x fold my investment in a couple off months, that you only had five loosing days so far. If that's true when falls come and you want me to pay for your services. I, with a smile on my face, will pay you many, many hundreds of pounds a month and I will recommend you to everybody I now.
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03-23-2010, 06:00 PM
Post: #6
RE: Cheltenham
Lidsville,

I can assure you that we use the same selection criteria at all times. Cheltenham just seemed to throw us off course. As we have stated, it was a big mistake including it.

We are running at around 37% (possibly a little less) but this is based on using the selections with a stop at profit plan. It is of course up to you how you use the information we provide but bare in mind the selection process is designed with the SAP in mind.
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