http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/ Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:18:16 +0000 MyBB http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=27 Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:58:44 +0100 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=27
1. To my knowledge two off the rules to this service is stop at 1 point or more profit and no more than a 3 points daily loss. The odd thing is that you back horses at odds lower than even which makes the user betting again after a win. This is a weird SAP method, you "force" the user into a dis-advantage.

If the less than even is the 1st selection of the day and wins you still have at least one more bet to put in which makes you favoured to loose for the day.

If the first bet is a loss and the 2nd is a less than even and the horse win you still have about, on average, a 70 percent chance loosing that day.

This adds up to that even with many off your winners your favoured to loose.

2. You state on your frontpage that you average a 1.67 points a day which puts at least 150 points off target.

3. With knowledge off laying horses you would see that many off your selections are good qualifiers for laying, which indicates that you have a weak selection method.

4. You have loosing streaks that are mathematically unlikely or off.

5. As a punter I don't care if a 22 odds almost won or the 4th selection won. I want results. And if you are good at getting results you should get paid doing that. Giving a service away for free, for this long, raises suspicion.

There are more things to. When you put the whole picture togehter you'll see that it doesn't add up, there is gaps, to many questions, you give away a free service but lying about the avg daily profit or yield. Why? It's free it aint to hard to check.

Have you thought off pulling this off the market and re-think this method, maybe look over the whole thing? I tried your last service service, the lay service, this to had some fundamental flaws.

I might be wrong in my analysis so please, comment this.

Anyway, good luck with your service and I hope I am wrong and you end up winning tons off money.]]>
1. To my knowledge two off the rules to this service is stop at 1 point or more profit and no more than a 3 points daily loss. The odd thing is that you back horses at odds lower than even which makes the user betting again after a win. This is a weird SAP method, you "force" the user into a dis-advantage.

If the less than even is the 1st selection of the day and wins you still have at least one more bet to put in which makes you favoured to loose for the day.

If the first bet is a loss and the 2nd is a less than even and the horse win you still have about, on average, a 70 percent chance loosing that day.

This adds up to that even with many off your winners your favoured to loose.

2. You state on your frontpage that you average a 1.67 points a day which puts at least 150 points off target.

3. With knowledge off laying horses you would see that many off your selections are good qualifiers for laying, which indicates that you have a weak selection method.

4. You have loosing streaks that are mathematically unlikely or off.

5. As a punter I don't care if a 22 odds almost won or the 4th selection won. I want results. And if you are good at getting results you should get paid doing that. Giving a service away for free, for this long, raises suspicion.

There are more things to. When you put the whole picture togehter you'll see that it doesn't add up, there is gaps, to many questions, you give away a free service but lying about the avg daily profit or yield. Why? It's free it aint to hard to check.

Have you thought off pulling this off the market and re-think this method, maybe look over the whole thing? I tried your last service service, the lay service, this to had some fundamental flaws.

I might be wrong in my analysis so please, comment this.

Anyway, good luck with your service and I hope I am wrong and you end up winning tons off money.]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=26 Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:52:40 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=26
Spurs v Portsmouth KO 3pm

Any Unquoted in the Correct Score market @ 3.7 looking to trade out at the earliest convenient time for whatever profit we can take ]]>
Spurs v Portsmouth KO 3pm

Any Unquoted in the Correct Score market @ 3.7 looking to trade out at the earliest convenient time for whatever profit we can take ]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=25 Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:51:58 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=25
First thanks for the free advice it's awesome your doing this and I hope you don't see this as me just nagging. I am grateful.

Cheltenham: have you considered leaving Cheltingham alone? 1 in 16 (or is it 15) that is a lousy record around 6% hit rate. You have 38-39% else where.

Any thoughts]]>
First thanks for the free advice it's awesome your doing this and I hope you don't see this as me just nagging. I am grateful.

Cheltenham: have you considered leaving Cheltingham alone? 1 in 16 (or is it 15) that is a lousy record around 6% hit rate. You have 38-39% else where.

Any thoughts]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=23 Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:11:33 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=23
I will post all my selections here just to keep tabs on all my bets. I backed Rangers half time at 1.86 already today.

My bets will be put up soon. Many thanks

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I will be using a 100 point bank. 1 point equals 1% 2 points equals 2% and so on. My maximum bet will be 5 points.

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Bet 1: Berbatov to score at 2.47 (2 points)]]>
I will post all my selections here just to keep tabs on all my bets. I backed Rangers half time at 1.86 already today.

My bets will be put up soon. Many thanks

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I will be using a 100 point bank. 1 point equals 1% 2 points equals 2% and so on. My maximum bet will be 5 points.

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Bet 1: Berbatov to score at 2.47 (2 points)]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=21 Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:44:35 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=21 ]]> ]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=20 Sun, 21 Feb 2010 16:56:52 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=20
But is there any need to invest more??

You don’t necessarily have to put any more of your own money into your betting bank. If a system / service has proved to make consistent profits, you could easily boost your betting capital by compounding your stakes.

This is a simple strategy and it involves you reinvesting all or part of your profit into your betting bank and then recalculating your stake. This can be done each day, week or month. The frequency that you do this largely depends on the regularity of the profits from the system / service. If you are following a system / service that has long losing runs followed by big winners, then a longer period of time would be better suited. If you are making moderate consistent profit, a shorter period of time would work best.

There are two ways of compounding:

1 – You increase your stake after a profitable period and reduce during a loss period. You would stake a % of your bank each bet and your stake would increase / decrease in line with your bank.

2 – You only ever increase and never decrease your stakes. This is a more aggressive staking plan but if the system / service is profitable, it will provide you with greater rewards. When on a losing run your stakes would remain the same until your bank has increased back to the level it was at before the losing run occurred.

Using the first 20 days that we have been running our service live, you would have made an increase to your bank of 41.28%. If compounding each day using method 2, you could have increased that amount to 48.69%.

Now 7.41% may not seem like a great deal but considering this is over a short period of just 3 weeks it becomes a lot more attractive.

If the performance were to continue at this level, the next 3 weeks would make a much bigger difference. Over the 6 week period the level staking increase would be a very respectable 82.57% but compounding would make a huge increase of 121.10%.

You can now see the power of compounding. A small difference of 7.41% over 3 weeks has increased to a massive 38.53% over the same period again.

In a short period of time you could easily turn a small initial bank into a large one.

I have attached a spreadsheet that you may download to better explain the above example.

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But is there any need to invest more??

You don’t necessarily have to put any more of your own money into your betting bank. If a system / service has proved to make consistent profits, you could easily boost your betting capital by compounding your stakes.

This is a simple strategy and it involves you reinvesting all or part of your profit into your betting bank and then recalculating your stake. This can be done each day, week or month. The frequency that you do this largely depends on the regularity of the profits from the system / service. If you are following a system / service that has long losing runs followed by big winners, then a longer period of time would be better suited. If you are making moderate consistent profit, a shorter period of time would work best.

There are two ways of compounding:

1 – You increase your stake after a profitable period and reduce during a loss period. You would stake a % of your bank each bet and your stake would increase / decrease in line with your bank.

2 – You only ever increase and never decrease your stakes. This is a more aggressive staking plan but if the system / service is profitable, it will provide you with greater rewards. When on a losing run your stakes would remain the same until your bank has increased back to the level it was at before the losing run occurred.

Using the first 20 days that we have been running our service live, you would have made an increase to your bank of 41.28%. If compounding each day using method 2, you could have increased that amount to 48.69%.

Now 7.41% may not seem like a great deal but considering this is over a short period of just 3 weeks it becomes a lot more attractive.

If the performance were to continue at this level, the next 3 weeks would make a much bigger difference. Over the 6 week period the level staking increase would be a very respectable 82.57% but compounding would make a huge increase of 121.10%.

You can now see the power of compounding. A small difference of 7.41% over 3 weeks has increased to a massive 38.53% over the same period again.

In a short period of time you could easily turn a small initial bank into a large one.

I have attached a spreadsheet that you may download to better explain the above example.

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10 selections 5 winners ]]>
10 selections 5 winners ]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=18 Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:08:31 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=18

Todays should have been Divertimenti Wolvs 5.40

6th 11/4

There may not be a selection everyday but i'll do my best to get them on here when there is one.

Tuesdays is: Folks 1:50 Lord Gunnerslake

Rolling Tally = +.95pts]]>

Todays should have been Divertimenti Wolvs 5.40

6th 11/4

There may not be a selection everyday but i'll do my best to get them on here when there is one.

Tuesdays is: Folks 1:50 Lord Gunnerslake

Rolling Tally = +.95pts]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=17 Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:14:09 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=17
The past results for this system have been very good, so I am keen to see if they will continue in the same fashion during a live test.

So, onto the results we go...

In the last half 2007 (which was when Jason first began testing) Betfair Miracle produced 148 winning bets from 163 selections (a 90.8% strike rate). This generated an overall profit of +92.83 points.

In 2008 Betfair Miracle produced 211 winning bets from 230 selections (a 91.7% strike rate) and generated a profit of +138.17 points.

And in 2009 Betfair Miracle produced 241 wins from 265 bets (a 90.9% strike rate), generating +134.92 points in profit.

There have been runs of up to 59 consecutive wins in a row which I would be very pleased to see during the trial.

All of the past results are included on a spreadsheet upon purchasing the system. Jason has also posted up screenshots of his Betfair account.

If you decide to purchase the system, enter this code 'bfm-profits' as your discount coupon on the order form and you'll save £30.

Purchase here

You will need to have access to the Racing Post website to use this system, which now requires a subscription but Jason is offering an email service for just £10 per month. This is only available after you have purchased the system but it will ensure that you receive the exact selections that Jason is using himself.

The emails arrive by 9.30am and any questions I have had have been answered promptly. The customer service cannot be faulted, hopefully the results will mirror this.

I will update this thread with all of the results since the launch and I will then update each evening with the daily bets and results until the end of the month.

Jason recommends a 50pt bank, staking 1pt per selection. I will use a £500 bank for the trial with £10 stakes.

Let's see if this system can live up to its claims???

Purchase here]]>
The past results for this system have been very good, so I am keen to see if they will continue in the same fashion during a live test.

So, onto the results we go...

In the last half 2007 (which was when Jason first began testing) Betfair Miracle produced 148 winning bets from 163 selections (a 90.8% strike rate). This generated an overall profit of +92.83 points.

In 2008 Betfair Miracle produced 211 winning bets from 230 selections (a 91.7% strike rate) and generated a profit of +138.17 points.

And in 2009 Betfair Miracle produced 241 wins from 265 bets (a 90.9% strike rate), generating +134.92 points in profit.

There have been runs of up to 59 consecutive wins in a row which I would be very pleased to see during the trial.

All of the past results are included on a spreadsheet upon purchasing the system. Jason has also posted up screenshots of his Betfair account.

If you decide to purchase the system, enter this code 'bfm-profits' as your discount coupon on the order form and you'll save £30.

Purchase here

You will need to have access to the Racing Post website to use this system, which now requires a subscription but Jason is offering an email service for just £10 per month. This is only available after you have purchased the system but it will ensure that you receive the exact selections that Jason is using himself.

The emails arrive by 9.30am and any questions I have had have been answered promptly. The customer service cannot be faulted, hopefully the results will mirror this.

I will update this thread with all of the results since the launch and I will then update each evening with the daily bets and results until the end of the month.

Jason recommends a 50pt bank, staking 1pt per selection. I will use a £500 bank for the trial with £10 stakes.

Let's see if this system can live up to its claims???

Purchase here]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=16 Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:29:51 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=16 ]]> ]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=15 Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:02:48 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=15
We achieved a little more than 14pts profit. This gave us a 2pt per day average profit, which is higher than our running average.

Let's hope for more of the same this week.

We still have remaining memberships available, so if you haven't yet signed up, go to:

Join here]]>
We achieved a little more than 14pts profit. This gave us a 2pt per day average profit, which is higher than our running average.

Let's hope for more of the same this week.

We still have remaining memberships available, so if you haven't yet signed up, go to:

Join here]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=14 Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:42:05 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=14
I'll let Dan total it up for the week ]]>
I'll let Dan total it up for the week ]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=13 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:30:47 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=13
Sat 6th Feb

I have a 6 and a 10 team accumulator. I have been 1 team off the 6 team for the last 3 weeks, so it must be a matter of time before I hit all 6. The 10 is a long shot but worth a few quid if we get lucky.

6 Team
Notts Forest
Huddersfield
Bournemouth
Chesterfield
Rotherham
Rochdale

10 Team
Man City
Notts Forest
West Brom
Leeds
Huddersfield
MK Dons
Bournemouth
Chesterfield
Rotherham
Rochdale]]>
Sat 6th Feb

I have a 6 and a 10 team accumulator. I have been 1 team off the 6 team for the last 3 weeks, so it must be a matter of time before I hit all 6. The 10 is a long shot but worth a few quid if we get lucky.

6 Team
Notts Forest
Huddersfield
Bournemouth
Chesterfield
Rotherham
Rochdale

10 Team
Man City
Notts Forest
West Brom
Leeds
Huddersfield
MK Dons
Bournemouth
Chesterfield
Rotherham
Rochdale]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=12 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:47:15 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=12 ]]> ]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=11 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:58:37 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=11 ]]> ]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=10 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 08:45:22 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=10
I will be phoning our website host as soon as they open at 9.00am and will get the selections uploaded asap.

Best Regards,

Daniel]]>
I will be phoning our website host as soon as they open at 9.00am and will get the selections uploaded asap.

Best Regards,

Daniel]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:54:18 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9
Hopefully it'll be a good game worth watching with a few mates who all seem to be called John Smith ]]>
Hopefully it'll be a good game worth watching with a few mates who all seem to be called John Smith ]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=7 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:16:06 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=7
12.42pts (3 days) ]]>
12.42pts (3 days) ]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=6 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:37:22 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=6

Total to date (2 days) 8.27pts ]]>

Total to date (2 days) 8.27pts ]]> http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:52:26 +0000 http://www.puntersprofits.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5 Sunderland v Stoke

Lets have £100 on Darren Bent to score anytime @ 2.34]]> Sunderland v Stoke

Lets have £100 on Darren Bent to score anytime @ 2.34]]>